There was a beginning. Ben Shapiro interviewed Stephen C. Meyer to discuss what happened at the beginning.
Stephen C. Meyer is a geophysicist and author of New York Times bestseller, “Darwin’s Doubt.” Despite not being a Christian himself, after years of scientific study, Meyer came to the conclusion that there simply must be an intelligent designer behind our creation.
‘There Was A Beginning’

DNA is Information in Digital Form
In the interview, Meyer talks about design, DNA, and digital code.
“One of the most extraordinary discoveries of twentieth-century biology is that — at the foundation of life — is information in a digital form. The DNA molecules store information in a four-character digital code.”
“To build anything in biology, you’ve got to have code. You’ve got to have information.”
Where Did The Information Come From?
“I became fascinated with that question and the possibility that the information for the foundation of life is actually an indicator of the activity of mind of an intelligence. But to determine whether or not that argument could be formulated scientifically — I had to dig in a little deeper — into how scientists go about reasoning about these origins questions. Oddly, one of the people most helpful to me was Charles Darwin himself. In the 19th century Darwin and his mentor Charles Lyell (the great geologist) developed a method for investigating historical scientific questions. They had a principle of reasoning they called the ‘vera causa principle’ — or the idea that if you want to explain an event the remote past you should posit an event (a cause) which is known to have the powers to produce the effect in question.”
An Intelligent Mind
“As I began to think about that I realized that it was possible to formulate a case for intelligent design in a strictly scientific manner and using the method of Lyell and Darwin. When we think about the origin of information the one thing we know is that it always arises from an intelligent source. Whether we’re talking about a hieroglyphic inscription, or a paragraph in a book, or information embedded in a radio signal; whenever you find information (especially if it’s in a digital or alphabetic form) you trace it back to its source you’ll always come to a mind (an intelligent mind) — not a material process.”
David Klinghoffer said: Ben Shapiro May Have Done the Best Interview with Stephen Meyer
“Why might it be the best? Partly because of the long video format — a full hour, and very well produced. Partly because Shapiro has done his homework. He knows the common challenges to intelligent design and poses them very articulately, and he’s obviously absorbed Meyer’s books, especially Darwin’s Doubt and Signature in the Cell, as well other material on ID.”
Question: Was There a Beginning?
What do you think? What causes the amazing spirals found in nature? Who programmed the spiral aloe polyphylla with the Fibonacci sequence?
Originally published on 25-Mar-2019 / Updated on 13-Dec-2020